Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

The starting salary for NY teachers when I was in college was about $45,000. It sounded like a lot to me back then, but it's not worth it.
Not when compared to the earning potential in other fields (like
business, accounting, economics, law, etc.)

IHMO: I think this was planned.

Choice: Get a 4 year education and a BS, and start at $50,000 in a corporate job - and in 10 years be at $100,000.
or
Get a 4 year education for a BS, plus another 2 years for an MS, then do student teaching (I don't know how much they get paid for this - if anything), to start at $25,000 - and in 10 years be at $50,000.

So the only people who go into teaching are the ones that are truely dedicated to teaching (and get burned out and leave) and the morons.

And then to be forced to hand a chunk of your paycheck over to the elitists who are trying to kill you?

I remember my dad being pissed because he wanted out of the teacher's union. They made it extremely hard.
1. You could only opt out over like a 2 week window, not during the school year.2. They **still** took money out of your paycheck because "we do collective
bargaining on your behalf".


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I remember my dad being pissed because he wanted out of the teacher's union. They made it extremely hard.
1. You could only opt out over like a 2 week window, not during the
school year.2. They **still** took money out of your paycheck because
"we do collective
bargaining on your behalf".

It's robbery. The left has made union membership look more appealing by tying it in with medical and dental plans, but I still don't see the advantage; my wife pays union dues, but still has to pay for health insurance. So it's like paying for health insurance twice, plus the joy of having some of the money go to the Democrats.

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On 17 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

It's robbery. The left has made union membership look more appealing by tying it in with medical and dental plans, but I still don't see the advantage; my wife pays union dues, but still has to pay for health insurance. So it's like paying for health insurance twice, plus the joy
of having some of the money go to the Democrats.

That has nothing to do with the Democrats and that is the way it is. a lot of the GOP are just as greedy and idiots. The old saying is what comes around goes around.

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It's robbery. The left has made union membership look more appealing by tying it in with medical and dental plans, but I still don't see the advantage; my wife pays union dues, but still has to pay for health insurance. So it's like paying for health insurance twice, plus the joy of having some of the money go to the Democrats.

That has nothing to do with the Democrats and that is the way it is. a lot of the GOP are just as greedy and idiots. The old saying is what comes around goe
around.

For once, I think Aaron is right here. Most Unions make their money from
their members, and most of them put a lot of money into politics backing Democrat candidates, who gladly accept the donations.

It shouldn't have anything to do with politics, period, but that is one
place where Unions invest so it does.


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On 18 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

It's robbery.

Yet legal.

My dad could probably have fought it, but that would have taken courts, and lawyers, etc. Not worth it.

I've seen companies put some policies in place that are legally questionable but it would cost us too much to litigate, so employees
deal with them.

The blame starts a=with the voters and its time that they stop making
less assumptions and make better judgements based only on the facts.
This means do not believe anything a electic official say. Do you
own research to find out if they telling the truth or telling a
lies. The other issue with the GOP and Trump that have been doing
much de-regulation screwing up the economy, stock market for the
past several months, making it harder to find jobs, tariff wars,
increased and waste in DOD spending, there is non accountability
in the federal goverment agencies and GOP has control both the
house and the Senate and the sh*t is getting worse. Trump needs to
be fired and a lot of the member's in the U.S House and Senate
need to be fired. When they are elected and if they can not do
there job they should all the fired.

Another fact is that some of agencies think they are above the law
when it comes to EEOC and following the ADA law.

The left has made union membership look more appealing by

The left has **tried** to make union membership look more appealing.

I've worked with UAW guys. The only ones who like the union are the
ones who would get fired tomorrow for being useless. Everyone else sayd that the union does nothing for them.

That is not always true and the union member's needs to hold the
union elected officials accountable to make sure they do their
job to protect their employees. I currently board member and we all
work hard to protect our member's. Accountability is the key goal so
either the union elected officials needs to do their job or resign.

tying it in with medical and dental plans, but I still don't see the advantage; my wife pays union dues, but still has to pay for health insurance. So it's like paying for health insurance twice, plus the j of having some of the money go to the Democrats.

Why are you blamming the Democrats and should you have the choice to
pay for the benefits to your employer to receive them or the union
one or the other.

The Dems are the party of organized crime. So think of it as your "insurance" against them.

This is a false statement and the GOP is blame.

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It's robbery. The left has made union membership look more appealing tying it in with medical and dental plans, but I still don't see the advantage; my wife pays union dues, but still has to pay for health insurance. So it's like paying for health insurance twice, plus the j of having some of the money go to the Democrats.

That has nothing to do with the Democrats and that is the way it is. a
lot of the GOP are just as greedy and idiots. The old saying is what
comes around goes around.

Yea the GOP sucks too, but greedy? How are they greedy? Are they using labor unions to suck money out of hard-working taxpayers, and then using that money to do evil things?

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